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	<title>Comments on: Show 219: Noam Chomsky - &#8220;Chomsky on Humanism&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: El Capo</title>
		<link>http://www.equaltimeforfreethought.org/2007/05/27/show-219-noam-chomsky-chomsky-on-humanism/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>El Capo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thought, 

In regards to organized religion, proud men manipulating the true world of God for their own agenda. This is data manipulation resulting in a strong political power monopoly. 
Religions are all mixed up now, all religions blend into each other. They now all fall under the one big catholic umbrella. If the word of God was followed as it was written (obviously humans would then now humbleness) in the Bible it would only help huge populations live together in harmony without having to live in fear of their own governments. This would be a more socialist society following the Ten Commandments as Law. Perhaps more like a socialist dictatorship, as the interest of the State would be moral and for the people. Our taxes would go to our own infrastructure, health care, welfare, fair employment laws not to mention the knock on effect such society could have on neighboring countries. Only our own selfish egos would stops us from following the The Ten Commandments. 
Yet we follow human laws that only harm us, separate us as people and in the long term the political system we have will end up killing us. Politics, we like to complicate things because we think so much of ourselves.    

Of course this thought is no more than a thought. 

Media has me chasing selfish, egotistical, urges I must calm by consuming shallow minded things I don't need. 

Organized religions have become corporations laughing as consumers consume their products. Shallow, cheap religion giving a bad name to the truth. Shallow consumers are filled with confusion, misunderstandings, controversy, lies and shallow religion. This is a direct result of our selfish egos trying to fill a whole in our hearts only God in his true form can complete. Result of being incomplete, we consume anything and everything trying to fill that hole at least momentarily. 

If there is no God, then we are at the mercy of heartless men with no morals and as beautiful as the world is there is no point in living. Most of the world's population are really going to suffer hunger and die off, not that it hasn't been happening for the last 100 years. If someone next to me is dying of hunger day by day, what does it say about me if I seat there and watch. Bread $5, this person doesn't have $. So now this person's life has a value.  This society would not hand the hungry dying man food for free. This is how selfishly shallow we have become without God and capitalism is not going to help if there is no profits...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thought, </p>
<p>In regards to organized religion, proud men manipulating the true world of God for their own agenda. This is data manipulation resulting in a strong political power monopoly.<br />
Religions are all mixed up now, all religions blend into each other. They now all fall under the one big catholic umbrella. If the word of God was followed as it was written (obviously humans would then now humbleness) in the Bible it would only help huge populations live together in harmony without having to live in fear of their own governments. This would be a more socialist society following the Ten Commandments as Law. Perhaps more like a socialist dictatorship, as the interest of the State would be moral and for the people. Our taxes would go to our own infrastructure, health care, welfare, fair employment laws not to mention the knock on effect such society could have on neighboring countries. Only our own selfish egos would stops us from following the The Ten Commandments.<br />
Yet we follow human laws that only harm us, separate us as people and in the long term the political system we have will end up killing us. Politics, we like to complicate things because we think so much of ourselves.    </p>
<p>Of course this thought is no more than a thought. </p>
<p>Media has me chasing selfish, egotistical, urges I must calm by consuming shallow minded things I don&#8217;t need. </p>
<p>Organized religions have become corporations laughing as consumers consume their products. Shallow, cheap religion giving a bad name to the truth. Shallow consumers are filled with confusion, misunderstandings, controversy, lies and shallow religion. This is a direct result of our selfish egos trying to fill a whole in our hearts only God in his true form can complete. Result of being incomplete, we consume anything and everything trying to fill that hole at least momentarily. </p>
<p>If there is no God, then we are at the mercy of heartless men with no morals and as beautiful as the world is there is no point in living. Most of the world&#8217;s population are really going to suffer hunger and die off, not that it hasn&#8217;t been happening for the last 100 years. If someone next to me is dying of hunger day by day, what does it say about me if I seat there and watch. Bread $5, this person doesn&#8217;t have $. So now this person&#8217;s life has a value.  This society would not hand the hungry dying man food for free. This is how selfishly shallow we have become without God and capitalism is not going to help if there is no profits&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David J. Fischer</title>
		<link>http://www.equaltimeforfreethought.org/2007/05/27/show-219-noam-chomsky-chomsky-on-humanism/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>David J. Fischer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you! It would be helpful to me as an English/Philosophy teacher to get Prof. Chomsky's comments on the side of religion that passes mostly unnoticed.

What I mean is that 'religion' as it is most often used is typically discussed in terms of ethics, and to a lesser extent metaphysics. 

The etymology of the following words is very curious: Person; Religion; Belief; and Faith. Alan Watts and Joseph Campbell mentioned the ironies involved in looking at these words in depth. 

"Person" come from 'Mask'; it is a fiction. 

"Relgion" is not very clear, but 'tying back' is one that Campbell settled on. (Repeating over and over is another)

"Belief" involves "accept/approve" "Love/Hold Dear" "Hope/Wish For".

Faith involves "trust" "fidelity".


The problem is in usage. It is not clear in common discourse what these terms have come to mean to either speaker or listener.

 A 'real' religious person, it seems, would be one who in trust, practices and from time to time has a profound, ineffible, subjective experience. Instead, "religion" has come to, nearly always, reference moralistic preaching and the cunning hypocrites it breeds. 

Have language and popular understanding lost all regard for the "religious experience" (something Watts often called 'ecological awareness')? I suppose those who criticize "organized religion" may be pointing this out.

In any case, Prof. Chomsky embodies the value of the disinteresed pursuit of truth. To that extent he is a hero to me. It takes a lot to stay awake in the present day onslaught of social hypnosis; his voice is reassuring.

David J. Fischer

P.S. Wittgenstein seems to acknowledge the 'mystical' or 'ineffible' has Prof. Chomsky ever commented on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you! It would be helpful to me as an English/Philosophy teacher to get Prof. Chomsky&#8217;s comments on the side of religion that passes mostly unnoticed.</p>
<p>What I mean is that &#8216;religion&#8217; as it is most often used is typically discussed in terms of ethics, and to a lesser extent metaphysics. </p>
<p>The etymology of the following words is very curious: Person; Religion; Belief; and Faith. Alan Watts and Joseph Campbell mentioned the ironies involved in looking at these words in depth. </p>
<p>&#8220;Person&#8221; come from &#8216;Mask&#8217;; it is a fiction. </p>
<p>&#8220;Relgion&#8221; is not very clear, but &#8216;tying back&#8217; is one that Campbell settled on. (Repeating over and over is another)</p>
<p>&#8220;Belief&#8221; involves &#8220;accept/approve&#8221; &#8220;Love/Hold Dear&#8221; &#8220;Hope/Wish For&#8221;.</p>
<p>Faith involves &#8220;trust&#8221; &#8220;fidelity&#8221;.</p>
<p>The problem is in usage. It is not clear in common discourse what these terms have come to mean to either speaker or listener.</p>
<p> A &#8216;real&#8217; religious person, it seems, would be one who in trust, practices and from time to time has a profound, ineffible, subjective experience. Instead, &#8220;religion&#8221; has come to, nearly always, reference moralistic preaching and the cunning hypocrites it breeds. </p>
<p>Have language and popular understanding lost all regard for the &#8220;religious experience&#8221; (something Watts often called &#8216;ecological awareness&#8217;)? I suppose those who criticize &#8220;organized religion&#8221; may be pointing this out.</p>
<p>In any case, Prof. Chomsky embodies the value of the disinteresed pursuit of truth. To that extent he is a hero to me. It takes a lot to stay awake in the present day onslaught of social hypnosis; his voice is reassuring.</p>
<p>David J. Fischer</p>
<p>P.S. Wittgenstein seems to acknowledge the &#8216;mystical&#8217; or &#8216;ineffible&#8217; has Prof. Chomsky ever commented on this?</p>
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